“Those souls across the interface, those we call the dead. (147).
This is part of the storm that sweeps now among them all, both sides of Death. (152),
(…) the dead have talked with him (…) told stories of ancestors, or of spirits from other part of the veld—for time and space on their side have no meaning, all is together (…).”

“It makes no sense unless we also consider those who’ve passed over to the other side (…) there are peoples—these Hereros for example—who carry on business every day with their ancestors. The dead are as real as the living. How can you understand them without treating both sides of the wall of death with the same scientific approach?” (153)